we see them now because of the cult status that has ascribed to them in the last few years, as the first of the 'pocket rockets', and some people are trying to drive the price up as far as possible. three years ago i could buy a mkv for 450.00. now the least i see is 600.00. i paid 1450.00 for my .451 combo and those are now approaching 3,000.00. i am not complaining-only stating fact.