At the Market Hall show 11/30-12/1 in Dallas, which is the largest in the area, there was an individual walking around with a very clean gun, not sure which (it was the small .45 with the beveled portion of the slide behind the sight). No box, one mag with a very large finger extension. He starting out asking $700, was down to $500 when I last saw him, and I think he left without selling it.